27-03-2012, 19:05 PM
(Seda postitust muudeti viimati: 28-03-2012, 11:08 AM ja muutjaks oli PlyVal64.)
Parmhot, just nii see kõik kujunebki. Ja tuleneb see rahvusvahelistest nõuetest, et mitte minna liigselt EALiga vastuollu või "tülli". Tulemused tulevad mitte kiirusliku ja ajavõtu põhjalt... Enne, kui me ei saa FIVA liikmeks ja kohapeale FIVA ANF'i, tuleb selliselt käituda. Sest üldjoontes on nii, et vaid tõsine historic-sportralli ja ringrada on FIA asi, muu kõik FIVA oma. FIA ehk EALiga ei ole meie tegemistel miskit otsest pistmist.
FIA egiidi all - puhas sport. FIVA - puhas vanatehnika hobi sõltumata ürituse näilikust "sportlikusest". Sestap sai juba ka lubatud, et klassikalise Uunikute Talveralli sees enam sport-klassi sellisena ei tule. See oligi proov nägemaks, palju on reaalseid sportlikuma poole huvilisi. Kahjuks võtab Eestis kõik, k.a. FIVA'ga ühinemine, jubedalt aega ja raha, mida meil ei ole. Töö käib, Kaspar Noor ja Mati Kits on käinud FIVA skandinaavia regiooni kooskäimistel/koosolekutel aga millal Eestisse ANF tekib...
Muidu on Eesti vanatehnika reeglid veel oluliselt karmimad, kui enamusel FIVA liikmetel ja meie "Must Number" põhimõtteliselt riigi seadusegi tasemel väga-väga karm aga "probleem" on eri osapoolte ühe mütsi alla saamine ning teatud seltsingust reaalse MTÜ tekitamine. Ainult seda saaks FIVA oma täisliikmeks võtta. Kuid sellega kaasneb kohe ka kulu, mida ei saa ette täpselt teada sest liikmemaksu suuruse määrab FIVA igale eraldi vastavalt riigile. Pluss juba siis ka "must be" kontor ja mingi palgakulu.
Historic Touring Concentration
- No classification decided by a speed or timing factor.
- The regulations must be drawn up in accordance with the FIVA International Events Code.
- The ASNs and the FIVA ANF(s) of every territory of the itinerary must be informed of the event and its route in advance.
- Eligible cars must satisfy the legal requirements for road use in their countries of registration and have been manufactured at least 15 years before 1st January of the current year. The acceptance and classification of entries are at the discretion of the organisers.
Uunikute Talveralli puhul ongi selleks mõeldud Ristsõna, mis paneb paremusjärjestuse paika. See lisakatse ja AKP'de aja märkimine ei ole siinkohal enam oluline.
2.1.12 FIA/FIVA convention
FIA considers that co-operation with FIVA is central to its activities in the historic non-sporting field, in order to defend the free and unrestricted circulation of historic vehicle and promote also their non-sporting use.
According to the terms of the FIA/FIVA Convention, signed on October 10th 1974, and updated on the 27th of October 1999, the FIVA has recognised the FIA as being the only International Authority in the world of motor sport. In particular, whereas historic automobile events of a sporting nature shall remain within the exclusive competence of FIA and its members, non-sporting Regularity events shall continue to be entitled to use either FIA or FIVA regulations. Touring Concentrations organised under the authority of the FIA shall respect the FIVA International Events Code.
Organisers (FIA or FIVA affiliated) may organise (subject to possible acceptance of relevant ASNs, in particular when foreseen by national legislation) regularity rallies on condition that the average speed does not exceed the lowest of the two following speeds: 50 km/h or the maximum speed normally permitted for automobile events by the Governmental authorities of the countries involved.
2.1.13 Events definitions
2.1.13.1 Historic event
An Historic event may be a demonstration, parade, historic road event, historic rally, historic regularity rally or an historic touring concentration organised under FIA and/or FIVA control. All International events must respect the regulations in this Appendix and, with the exception of rallies and hill-climbs (including circuit races held during rallies), will take place on circuits approved by the FIA for International events as stated in Appendix O, Article 6.
FIA egiidi all - puhas sport. FIVA - puhas vanatehnika hobi sõltumata ürituse näilikust "sportlikusest". Sestap sai juba ka lubatud, et klassikalise Uunikute Talveralli sees enam sport-klassi sellisena ei tule. See oligi proov nägemaks, palju on reaalseid sportlikuma poole huvilisi. Kahjuks võtab Eestis kõik, k.a. FIVA'ga ühinemine, jubedalt aega ja raha, mida meil ei ole. Töö käib, Kaspar Noor ja Mati Kits on käinud FIVA skandinaavia regiooni kooskäimistel/koosolekutel aga millal Eestisse ANF tekib...
Muidu on Eesti vanatehnika reeglid veel oluliselt karmimad, kui enamusel FIVA liikmetel ja meie "Must Number" põhimõtteliselt riigi seadusegi tasemel väga-väga karm aga "probleem" on eri osapoolte ühe mütsi alla saamine ning teatud seltsingust reaalse MTÜ tekitamine. Ainult seda saaks FIVA oma täisliikmeks võtta. Kuid sellega kaasneb kohe ka kulu, mida ei saa ette täpselt teada sest liikmemaksu suuruse määrab FIVA igale eraldi vastavalt riigile. Pluss juba siis ka "must be" kontor ja mingi palgakulu.
Historic Touring Concentration
- No classification decided by a speed or timing factor.
- The regulations must be drawn up in accordance with the FIVA International Events Code.
- The ASNs and the FIVA ANF(s) of every territory of the itinerary must be informed of the event and its route in advance.
- Eligible cars must satisfy the legal requirements for road use in their countries of registration and have been manufactured at least 15 years before 1st January of the current year. The acceptance and classification of entries are at the discretion of the organisers.
Uunikute Talveralli puhul ongi selleks mõeldud Ristsõna, mis paneb paremusjärjestuse paika. See lisakatse ja AKP'de aja märkimine ei ole siinkohal enam oluline.
2.1.12 FIA/FIVA convention
FIA considers that co-operation with FIVA is central to its activities in the historic non-sporting field, in order to defend the free and unrestricted circulation of historic vehicle and promote also their non-sporting use.
According to the terms of the FIA/FIVA Convention, signed on October 10th 1974, and updated on the 27th of October 1999, the FIVA has recognised the FIA as being the only International Authority in the world of motor sport. In particular, whereas historic automobile events of a sporting nature shall remain within the exclusive competence of FIA and its members, non-sporting Regularity events shall continue to be entitled to use either FIA or FIVA regulations. Touring Concentrations organised under the authority of the FIA shall respect the FIVA International Events Code.
Organisers (FIA or FIVA affiliated) may organise (subject to possible acceptance of relevant ASNs, in particular when foreseen by national legislation) regularity rallies on condition that the average speed does not exceed the lowest of the two following speeds: 50 km/h or the maximum speed normally permitted for automobile events by the Governmental authorities of the countries involved.
2.1.13 Events definitions
2.1.13.1 Historic event
An Historic event may be a demonstration, parade, historic road event, historic rally, historic regularity rally or an historic touring concentration organised under FIA and/or FIVA control. All International events must respect the regulations in this Appendix and, with the exception of rallies and hill-climbs (including circuit races held during rallies), will take place on circuits approved by the FIA for International events as stated in Appendix O, Article 6.