ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS

Väga tubli ja meeletu töö ära tehtud! Pakun, et tegu võib hetkel olla maailma parima kvaliteediga ja kõige siledama kereplekiga ümara kere ja katuseakendega PAZ bussiga. Tehases need vaevalt nii sirgeks aeti ja materjalide kvaliteedist ei hakka rääkimagi.

Musta numbri eelistest veokatele ja bussidele põhjal ei tea. Aga sõiduautode ja mootorrataste puhul tuuakse pidevalt ühte plussi välja, et TÜV iga nelja aasta tagant. Samas keegi pole kunagi välja toonud, et mustale numbrile vastavuse kontrollimine (komisjoni töö) maksab ka ning rahaliselt nullib see selle 4 aasta TÜV kokkuhoiu ära üsna pikas perspektiivis.  Samas ega keegi seda numbrit ju nüüd selle kokkuhoiu pärast ei taotle, ikka prestiiži tõttu ning olgem ausad, et must number kahtlemata lisaks soliidsust antud masinalegi.

Aga PAZ bussidega puutusin kokku viimati 2 aastat tagasi Armeenias, seal see täitsa igapäevane sõiduk linnas (ümar PAZ vast 10 % linnaliinidest) ja maaliinidel pea ainult ümarad kollakad-oranžikad PAZ-id ongi.  Samas on ka erakätes üsna uhkeid isendeid ja väsinud masinad on tähtis osas maastikuarhitektuurist. Lisan ka enda tehtud pildid:

   

Tavaline maaliin:

   

Ja maastikuvaade: (Vanarauda seal eriti ei koguta nii et seda vedeleb pea kõikjal igasugusel kujul. Umbes nagu eestalste hoovid ja kohati looduski 1990ndate lõpus-2000ndate alguses).

   

Edit: Pildid nüüd lisatud manustena.
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ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 20-12-2015, 17:24 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 20-12-2015, 18:49 PM
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RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Regardman - 15-01-2016, 00:33 AM
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RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: cesium - 13-01-2016, 19:04 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 13-01-2016, 21:00 PM
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RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 22-01-2016, 20:43 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Talupoeg taluja - 22-01-2016, 21:53 PM
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RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 26-01-2016, 20:36 PM
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RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 29-01-2016, 17:27 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 04-02-2016, 21:27 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: aksel73 - 17-02-2016, 12:49 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 20-02-2016, 03:08 AM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Talupoeg taluja - 04-02-2016, 21:54 PM
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RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Marko - 04-02-2016, 23:02 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Talupoeg taluja - 04-02-2016, 23:08 PM
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RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 05-02-2016, 20:22 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Talupoeg taluja - 05-02-2016, 20:29 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 20-02-2016, 02:24 AM
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RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: DevilDeVille - 01-03-2016, 00:26 AM
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RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 17-03-2016, 19:47 PM
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RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Regardman - 20-03-2016, 09:59 AM
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RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 16-03-2016, 19:55 PM
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RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kadjakas - 20-09-2016, 23:31 PM
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RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 13-01-2017, 22:15 PM
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RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 08-02-2017, 23:24 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 09-02-2017, 23:32 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Väravamehaanik - 15-02-2017, 09:56 AM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: kalju1 - 15-02-2017, 10:07 AM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: vedru - 16-02-2017, 00:18 AM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 15-02-2017, 22:59 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: kalju1 - 16-02-2017, 12:27 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 19-02-2017, 23:37 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Väravamehaanik - 20-02-2017, 11:59 AM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: kalju1 - 20-02-2017, 12:51 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Laurts - 20-02-2017, 13:54 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: IIIFFFAR - 28-02-2017, 12:43 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 20-02-2017, 19:09 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: kalju1 - 28-02-2017, 12:19 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 01-03-2017, 18:33 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 01-03-2017, 23:55 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 06-03-2017, 19:53 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Talupoeg taluja - 06-03-2017, 20:33 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 07-03-2017, 23:20 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Talupoeg taluja - 07-03-2017, 23:43 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 10-03-2017, 20:00 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 15-03-2017, 19:43 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: DevilDeVille - 16-03-2017, 00:28 AM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Regardman - 16-03-2017, 14:31 PM
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RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 20-03-2017, 20:29 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 29-03-2017, 21:29 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 29-03-2017, 22:18 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Väravamehaanik - 30-03-2017, 10:06 AM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: DevilDeVille - 30-03-2017, 10:29 AM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 31-03-2017, 17:52 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 30-03-2017, 22:24 PM
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RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 08-04-2017, 19:08 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 19-04-2017, 21:56 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 25-04-2017, 22:20 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: kopraonu - 25-04-2017, 23:29 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 26-04-2017, 06:43 AM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Marko - 25-04-2017, 23:59 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 26-04-2017, 06:45 AM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 05-05-2017, 23:24 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 07-05-2017, 22:08 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Väravamehaanik - 10-05-2017, 08:52 AM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 10-05-2017, 18:04 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 17-05-2017, 22:23 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 20-05-2017, 19:08 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Marko - 20-05-2017, 23:59 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 30-05-2017, 18:59 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Regardman - 30-05-2017, 19:32 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 30-05-2017, 19:38 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: DevilDeVille - 31-05-2017, 19:27 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Talupoeg taluja - 31-05-2017, 19:42 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Marko - 31-05-2017, 19:48 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 31-05-2017, 20:14 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: DevilDeVille - 31-05-2017, 21:20 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: DevilDeVille - 31-05-2017, 21:28 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: MeelisV - 31-05-2017, 21:36 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Sm.Autojuht - 31-05-2017, 21:38 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: DevilDeVille - 31-05-2017, 21:52 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Sm.Autojuht - 31-05-2017, 23:40 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 01-06-2017, 21:18 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 03-06-2017, 17:05 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: kopraonu - 03-06-2017, 17:55 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 03-06-2017, 18:03 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: volvo - 03-06-2017, 23:33 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 03-06-2017, 23:54 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Marko - 04-06-2017, 00:02 AM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 05-06-2017, 20:18 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: linnuke - 05-06-2017, 22:25 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: heits - 06-06-2017, 07:39 AM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 06-06-2017, 20:28 PM
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RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 26-06-2017, 19:14 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 18-07-2017, 23:59 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: v6sa - 19-07-2017, 10:22 AM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Regardman - 20-07-2017, 00:51 AM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 21-07-2017, 20:35 PM
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RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 25-07-2017, 19:17 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Veiko Varik - 25-07-2017, 23:05 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: DevilDeVille - 25-07-2017, 23:12 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 28-07-2017, 21:45 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: impreza - 29-07-2017, 00:27 AM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: linnuke - 29-07-2017, 00:33 AM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 30-07-2017, 19:25 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 04-08-2017, 21:07 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Marko - 04-08-2017, 21:15 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 04-08-2017, 21:27 PM
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RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: kopraonu - 05-08-2017, 20:37 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: stihl - 05-08-2017, 21:58 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: kopraonu - 05-08-2017, 22:13 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: volvo - 06-08-2017, 08:19 AM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 08-08-2017, 20:41 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: motamees - 08-08-2017, 21:43 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: hulgus - 08-08-2017, 21:56 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 08-08-2017, 22:25 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: ennww - 09-08-2017, 12:31 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Regardman - 09-08-2017, 18:20 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 09-08-2017, 23:20 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Regardman - 10-08-2017, 07:44 AM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 09-08-2017, 22:06 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Talupoeg taluja - 09-08-2017, 22:10 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 09-08-2017, 22:18 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: v6sa - 10-08-2017, 08:55 AM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Talupoeg taluja - 09-08-2017, 22:32 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 09-08-2017, 22:42 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: hulgus - 10-08-2017, 09:31 AM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: mossepower - 10-08-2017, 10:51 AM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: cesium - 10-08-2017, 11:45 AM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 12-08-2017, 23:29 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: v6sa - 13-08-2017, 10:26 AM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 13-08-2017, 15:52 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 21-08-2017, 18:39 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: urmet48 - 21-08-2017, 20:32 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 27-08-2017, 22:43 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 09-09-2017, 21:56 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Regardman - 12-09-2017, 08:23 AM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: simmer - 12-09-2017, 11:04 AM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Janka - 12-09-2017, 17:36 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Talupoeg taluja - 12-09-2017, 19:11 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 21-12-2017, 19:32 PM
RE: ПАЗ 672М 082 AIS - Autor: Kelm - 23-12-2017, 18:44 PM



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