Opel Vectra A
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ma jätsin selle vaate esialgu heaga kõrvale - võimalik, et on erinevusi, aga ehk ei puhu otseselt pilli? Kui, siis peasilinder kuigipalju...

aga mõtleme natuke koos.

originaalkoodid võib mu meelest taoliste uurimiste puhul heaga kõrvale jätta - nende puhul võib erinevuse sisse tuua puhtalt tootmisaasta (LET mootor tuli 1992). Samas varuosakataloogid pakuvad üldiselt sobivust pigem "aga mahub ju külge küll"-loogikaga Smile
...niiet eks isiklik tõde tuleb enda jaoks ise välja mõelda Smile

kui ma õigesti aru saan, on peasilindrid (nii ATE kui Delco süsteem) 22,2mm ja 23,8mm läbimõõduga. eparts.ee annab nt 1994a vabalthingavale varuosa-silindreid vaid 22,2mm, sama aasta turbomasinale aga nii 22,2mm kui 23,8mm.
rem komplekte aga kirjeldusega "Läbimõõt 1/Läbimõõt 2 (mm): 22,2/23,8". See on vist pigem "one size fits all" lähenemine?
üldiselt kipun ma isiklikuks tõeks kuulutama seda, et mul on 22,2mm peasilinder, aga tehas pani suurema piduriga süsteemidesse 23,8mm peasilindreid. Ning mu (esialgne) süsteem saab lihtsa teooria kohaselt olema (23,8-22,2)/23,8 = ca 7% suurema pedaalikäiguga, kui turbomasin (?). Plus tagumiste töösilindrite osa - ütleme, et 0,5*(40mm-38mm)/38mm = 2,6 (%), niiet summaarselt liigub puhtteoreetiiliselt pedaal ca 10% rohkem, kui turbomasinal tehaseseades. 0,5 on tagumiste pidurite ruumala kaal kogusüsteemis. Pidurdavad küll vähem ja ka töösilindrid on väiksemad (54mm vs 40mm), aga seal on esimeste pidurite ühe silindri asemel kaks, mis annab puhtaks ruumala-osakaaluks (eeldame, et on pindalaga sama) ca 0,5. Reaalselt on seal vast käiku kahe silindri tõttu rohkem ja seetõttu ei saa ruumala-osakaale päris pindala-suhetele taandada, aga see läheb juba liiga keeruliseks. Niigi on juba keeruline Smile

kui mõni mõttesuund vale on, siis näpuganäitamine on teretulnud!

edit: lisan kuiva jutu kõrvale ka eile pritsist tulnud esipüstakute + tagumiste õõtshoobade pildi Smile


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