Garaazi kütmine
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(06-12-2015, 01:49 AM)viplala Kirjutas:  Ja siinkohal ei tohi jätta arvestamata aega, mis kuluks elektriga kütmise kallidusele panustatud aega, et seda vahet kinni taguda. Kui siin keegi veel propageerib elektriga kütmise odavust, siis ma viskan talle Äripäevaga vastu pead.

Kurat, roosa lehega võib surma saada Big Grin Aga ELEKTRIGA kütmine ei tähenda kohe automaatselt üldse suurt kulu! Nõus, tavalise üliodava elektrikütte süsteemi puhul "tasandub" üliodav ehitushind kiiresti igapäevase rahalise tarbimisega. Aga seda ka juhul, kui tegu on suurte ja halva kvaliteediga ruumidega. Mida uuem, parema soojapidavusega jne ruum/hoone/maja, seda aeglasemalt kallis elekter odavalt lahendatuna "kahjumit" tootma hakkab. Kulu tekitavad nad kõik! 

Ahi kui selline, olles kuitahes suur ahjukütte fänn, on ikkagi energia raiskamine sest enamus soojast lihtsalt lähebki taevasse! Mitte ühte toimivat suitsugaasidest energia kätte saamise lahendust pole ilmas veel olemas. Ja kui see tehtaks, ODAV ei saa see kindlasti olema. See ei ole soojatagastusega vendi ehitamine. 
Ehk kahte asja tuleb muundada ja/või kusagilt "lisa" leida: kas elektrienergiat või Päikesest tulevat ja salvestunud kiirgust. Seda teebki just mistahes soojuspump. KAHJUKS tähendavad mõlemad automaatselt ka ehituskulude kasvu vs lihtne torukatel või üldse elektriradikad seinal. 
Siin aga tulebki mängu see eurooplaste skaala: oma aeg/mugavus vs hetkekulu vs pikaajaline tasuvus. 

Isegi Big Grin mina olen hakanud koju alternatiive mõtlema, küll alles mõtlema ja seda just sellel skaalal. "Abiks" on ka see, et mingil ajal lihtsalt ahjud ja korstnad hakkavad vajama suurt tööd - rahakulu - ja "äkki" on muid mugavaid alternatiive. Päike on sooja vee jaoks hea aga et 3 kuud on sellega ikaldus, ja just see aeg vajatakse enim sooja, siis kollektor katusel vs tarbevee kulu elektrilt soojendades ei ole ikka tasakaalus. Aga kui asi siduda aastaringse küttega, õuepeal on ka gaasitrass - avastasin hoopis selle, et Atlanticul on hübriid-soojuspumbad! Nõmmel on ebasobivaim pinnas maaküttele, samas talve keskmine õhutemp pole jällegi Kuusiku oma Big Grin Jah, seade on 7K+euri aga sinna kanti jääb mistahes HEA ja MOODSA kütteseadme hind. Seal 1000 siia-sinna pole oluline.  
Ok, mul gaasitrass õuel aga maal seda enamasti pole. Kohe tuleb ette "gaas kütmiseks" variant. Vaat seda ei tea, kuipalju mahuti paigaldus maksab jne. Aga miskipärast seda pakutakse ja jällegi: Euroopas olen väga palju maapiirkondades neid näinud. 

Alati on veel võimalus odavust taga ajades jätta süsteemi mingi tahkekütusel toimiv lahendus, kas katelpliit kööki, pelltikatel jne. Aga see kõik on ju uus, moodne ja tänapäevane võimalus, mida nõukaajal ei olnud! See ongi olnud areng klassikalisest 45 ruumi puude ahju ajamisest aastasse 2016. Mis meid eestlaseid reaalselt takistab: meie sissetulekud on numbriliselt liiga väikesed, pangad aga töötavad euroopa numbrite põhjal, nagu on ka seadmete endi hinnad. Ning meil on metsa ja oma aega/tööd me veel ei hinda. Ise täpselt samasugune Big Grin Lisaks "keeldun" kohustusi võtmast - vabadus (ka suvaline pank puutaha saata) on väärtus! Ja ka suhtumine "asjad veel toimivad kuidagimoodi"... mis aga ei tähenda, et külmalt jürgenligilikult arvutades peaks a'la 10-aastases perspektiivis vaadates juba täna tegutsema. 
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RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: veix__ - 08-01-2018, 22:47 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Raivo - 08-01-2018, 23:11 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Raigo - 08-01-2018, 23:16 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: 13piisab - 14-01-2018, 12:07 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: hajameelne - 14-01-2018, 20:29 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: 13piisab - 14-01-2018, 21:44 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: rollfix - 15-01-2018, 18:30 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: olli - 15-01-2018, 18:49 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: 13piisab - 15-01-2018, 18:55 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: hundu77 - 15-01-2018, 20:09 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: rollfix - 16-01-2018, 01:19 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Kjen - 16-01-2018, 10:18 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: olli - 21-11-2018, 01:54 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: muska71 - 21-11-2018, 09:12 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: hulgus - 19-11-2023, 12:09 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: hulgus - 21-11-2018, 09:24 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: ivo86 - 21-11-2018, 08:58 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: diesel - 21-11-2018, 21:24 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: hulgus - 22-11-2018, 00:01 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: olli - 21-11-2018, 21:54 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: veix__ - 21-11-2018, 22:30 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: juss - 21-12-2018, 21:19 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: jurkman - 25-12-2018, 09:52 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: muska71 - 25-12-2018, 13:16 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: juss - 29-12-2018, 00:25 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: r.i.h.o - 21-12-2018, 21:40 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: spitfire - 22-12-2018, 18:06 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Marko - 22-12-2018, 18:22 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: veix__ - 22-12-2018, 22:25 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: marauder - 22-12-2018, 23:15 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Kjen - 24-12-2018, 12:42 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: hulgus - 24-12-2018, 11:29 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: veix__ - 24-12-2018, 21:49 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: olli - 24-12-2018, 22:23 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: stretch - 25-12-2018, 03:11 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: marauder - 26-12-2018, 04:02 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: inc - 28-12-2018, 13:25 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Kult - 28-12-2018, 16:29 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: inc - 28-12-2018, 17:38 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Laurts - 28-12-2018, 15:21 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: inc - 28-12-2018, 17:25 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Marko - 29-12-2018, 00:39 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: juss - 29-12-2018, 22:21 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: ivoalaska - 13-02-2019, 15:43 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Aare R. - 16-03-2020, 22:51 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: hundu615 - 17-03-2020, 08:38 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Kult - 17-03-2020, 09:08 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: hundu615 - 17-03-2020, 09:43 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Brrr - 16-03-2020, 23:41 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Aare R. - 16-03-2020, 23:49 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Laanekas - 17-03-2020, 15:12 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: hundu615 - 17-03-2020, 15:16 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: juss - 18-02-2021, 22:12 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Jansa - 18-02-2021, 23:10 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: meli666 - 06-08-2022, 23:30 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Brrr - 07-08-2022, 09:21 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Raivo - 07-08-2022, 09:56 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: pvr - 07-08-2022, 09:25 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: hulgus - 07-08-2022, 10:18 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: muska71 - 07-08-2022, 15:01 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: hulgus - 07-08-2022, 22:12 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: MellMellMell - 08-08-2022, 21:31 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: meli666 - 28-10-2022, 18:43 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: muska71 - 28-10-2022, 19:22 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: MeelisV - 28-10-2022, 19:33 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Marko - 28-10-2022, 19:42 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: 13piisab - 28-10-2022, 19:54 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: meli666 - 28-10-2022, 22:05 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: muska71 - 29-10-2022, 10:07 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: MeelisV - 29-10-2022, 11:05 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: 2715 - 29-10-2022, 11:38 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: muska71 - 29-10-2022, 17:33 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: 2715 - 30-10-2022, 09:37 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: meli666 - 29-10-2022, 19:30 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Marko - 29-10-2022, 20:00 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: meli666 - 29-10-2022, 21:04 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Marko - 29-10-2022, 21:17 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: meli666 - 29-10-2022, 22:00 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: edvard - 29-10-2022, 22:46 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: muska71 - 30-10-2022, 10:23 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: muska71 - 30-10-2022, 11:49 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: meli666 - 13-11-2022, 21:30 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: zazik - 13-11-2022, 22:48 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Kult - 13-11-2022, 23:07 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Marko - 13-11-2022, 23:21 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: zazik - 14-11-2022, 01:23 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Janka - 14-11-2022, 02:11 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: meli666 - 13-11-2022, 23:43 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Marko - 13-11-2022, 23:53 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: meli666 - 14-11-2022, 00:15 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Meelis2 - 14-11-2022, 00:31 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Daff - 14-11-2022, 04:47 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: muska71 - 14-11-2022, 10:27 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: PlyVal64 - 14-11-2022, 13:37 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: muska71 - 14-11-2022, 18:19 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: PlyVal64 - 14-11-2022, 19:30 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: siimik - 14-11-2022, 20:30 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: muska71 - 13-12-2022, 18:39 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: hobiautod - 13-12-2022, 23:00 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Janka - 23-12-2022, 04:22 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: isandpauk - 24-12-2022, 16:51 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Janka - 25-12-2022, 11:13 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: gruppen - 25-12-2022, 11:50 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: muska71 - 25-12-2022, 11:44 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Janka - 25-12-2022, 17:26 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: huvi5 - 27-12-2022, 08:59 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: DevilDeVille - 28-12-2022, 22:24 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: ak75 - 29-12-2022, 00:00 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: klemm - 29-12-2022, 13:09 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: PlyVal64 - 29-12-2022, 14:30 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: alfredo - 14-01-2023, 13:44 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: A.V.S.K - 15-11-2023, 10:11 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: v6sa - 15-11-2023, 10:35 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: PlyVal64 - 15-11-2023, 14:02 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Necro - 15-11-2023, 11:23 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: xa88 - 15-11-2023, 14:49 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Necro - 15-11-2023, 14:59 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Janka - 16-11-2023, 10:15 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Necro - 16-11-2023, 13:27 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Janka - 16-11-2023, 19:49 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: olli - 16-11-2023, 21:35 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: klemm - 16-11-2023, 21:40 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: A.V.S.K - 15-11-2023, 14:52 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: spark - 15-11-2023, 15:12 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: olli - 15-11-2023, 16:02 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: PlyVal64 - 15-11-2023, 16:02 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: MeelisV - 15-11-2023, 16:11 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: PlyVal64 - 15-11-2023, 16:48 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: giordanobruno - 15-11-2023, 17:44 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: PlyVal64 - 15-11-2023, 19:35 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: A.V.S.K - 16-11-2023, 09:44 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: wax - 16-11-2023, 09:58 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Tegelane5 - 16-11-2023, 10:41 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: ivo86 - 16-11-2023, 10:52 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: hobiautod - 16-11-2023, 10:07 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: margus61 - 16-11-2023, 10:16 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Kult - 16-11-2023, 11:41 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: PlyVal64 - 16-11-2023, 14:45 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: A.V.S.K - 16-11-2023, 20:04 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: A.V.S.K - 16-11-2023, 21:51 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Janka - 17-11-2023, 00:23 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: tõnn - 17-11-2023, 00:36 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Janka - 17-11-2023, 08:51 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: PlyVal64 - 17-11-2023, 12:06 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: edvard - 17-11-2023, 12:29 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Mihkus - 17-11-2023, 13:42 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: maaks - 17-11-2023, 14:01 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: A.V.S.K - 17-11-2023, 15:01 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: giordanobruno - 17-11-2023, 15:38 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: isandpauk - 17-11-2023, 16:10 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: maaks - 17-11-2023, 16:15 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: t4rio - 17-11-2023, 18:41 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: A.V.S.K - 17-11-2023, 19:52 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: isandpauk - 18-11-2023, 01:56 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Janka - 17-11-2023, 23:32 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: hobiautod - 18-11-2023, 08:46 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Lauri_L - 18-11-2023, 11:38 AM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: A.V.S.K - 18-11-2023, 12:50 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: t4rio - 18-11-2023, 22:23 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Lauri_L - 19-11-2023, 12:54 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: Janka - 18-11-2023, 14:49 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: A.V.S.K - 18-11-2023, 19:42 PM
RE: Garaazi kütmine - Autor: mopple - 18-11-2023, 20:02 PM



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